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MRDA's avatar

My contention: Why care if the cunts tear chunks out of each other in a wretched hellscape free of the kind and considerate. If the majority are ultimately, to a greater or lesser degree, nowt but bovine beasts of prey, isn't abandoning antinatalism or encouraging pronatalism, by breeding or blessing, just feeding these future souls to a den of wolves?

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Sean A. Patterson's avatar

The world is already a hellscape of mean people. On the question of pleasure vs. suffering, I tend to agree with Schopenhauer: "Pleasure is never as pleasant as we expected it to be and pain is always more painful. The pain in the world always outweighs the pleasure. If you don't believe it, compare the respective feelings of two animals, one of which is eating the other." Pleasure always presupposes pain and suffering.

Personally, I would reject the hedonic logic you ascribe to the antinatalist position. When I see my life as being worth living it has nothing to do with pleasure outweighing pain -- the opposite has quite clearly been the case. The reason life is worth living is because one has love in one's heart. Our fear of death has little to do with pain and everything to do with being snuffed out. We want to live so we can keep loving, and we want to bring children into the world so we can love them. The fact that love implies pain and suffering is irrelevant.

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